That Wellness Podcast with Natalie Deering: Internal Family Systems with a Twist

Flying Free from Spiritual and Emotional Abuse: A Conversation with Natalie Hoffman

In this powerful and enlightening episode, I sit down with Natalie Hoffman, author of All the Scary Little Gods, to discuss her journey of deconstructing from emotional and spiritual abuse, and helping others do the same.
We explore the deep work of deprogramming from rigid belief systems and aligning your faith with your core values. Natalie Hoffman shares insights on alleviating shame tied to mental health and faith, and how writing from and for your parts can facilitate profound healing.
Together, we dive into the impacts of spiritual abuse, the challenge of being excommunicated by your church and family for questioning religious institutions, and the lies that rigid beliefs instill—such as the idea that faith and God are confined to a church. Natalie Hoffman offers hope and wisdom for overcoming the fear and shame perpetuated by these systems, and the courage it takes to speak out, especially as a woman.
We also explore the transformative power of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, including empathetic witnessing, solo parts work, and how to use these tools for healing, emotional intelligence, and reclaiming your spirituality.
This episode is for anyone questioning their faith, seeking to break free from fear-based religious programming, or searching for a deeper connection to their true self and spiritual beliefs.
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Topics Discussed:
Natalie’s book, All the Scary Little Gods
Helping women with spiritual and emotional abuse in religious contexts
Deprogramming and deconstructing from rigid belief systems
Aligning faith with core values and personal resonance
Alleviating shame connected to mental health and faith
Writing from parts to connect with parts
The power of empathetic witnessing in IFS therapy
Solo parts work for healing and emotional intelligence
Impacts of spiritual abuse on mental health
Being excommunicated by a church or family for questioning beliefs
Fear and shame created by rigid religious programming
The lie that God and faith are confined to a church
Letting go of fear instilled by religious teachings
Speaking out and reclaiming your voice as a woman
Tune in for an inspiring and thought-provoking conversation that will challenge you to explore, heal, and redefine your relationship with faith and spirituality.
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Natalie Hoffman is the author of Is It Me? Making Sense of Your Confusing Marriage and All the Scary Little Gods, as well as the host of the Flying Free podcast. A mother, grandmother, educator, and passionate advocate, Natalie is dedicated to empowering women of faith in abusive homes and religious communities.
Through her Flying Free Sisterhood program, Natalie provides education, support, and mentorship, helping women discover their voices, embrace their gifts, and make adult choices for their spiritual, emotional, and physical well-being.
Listeners can connect with Natalie and access resources on her website at www.flyingfreenow.com. By signing up on her homepage, you'll receive a free chapter of her book Is It Me? and its companion workbook. This chapter is designed to help assess whether you're in an emotionally abusive relationship—an often confusing experience for many victims.
Discover more about Natalie’s work and her mission to inspire healing and freedom for women of faith.
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Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/
 
Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact 
 
Instagram: @nataliedeering
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Sober Curious: A Candid Conversation with Christina Jelesky

In this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with my longtime friend Christina Jelesky to discuss our journeys of becoming sober curious. From wild college nights to the reflective moments in our 20s and 30s, we explore the evolution of our relationship with drinking and the profound impact it has had on our lives.
Together, we delve into the health challenges that pushed us to reexamine our choices, the sometimes surprising reactions from others, and the internal conflicts we’ve faced along the way. We share candid stories about navigating weddings, reunions, and social gatherings without alcohol and the clarity that comes from asking the questions, "Why am I drinking?" and "What is it adding to my life?"
We also celebrate the joys of the sober curious lifestyle, including our favorite mocktail brands and non-alcoholic beverages like Curious Elixirs, Topo Chico, Athletic Brewing, Bero, and more. Whether you're exploring a sober curious path or just seeking inspiration, this episode invites you to get curious and embrace the possibilities of life beyond alcohol.
 
Important Note:If you or someone you know is struggling with alcohol use, please seek support from a mental health professional or contact your nearest Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) group. There are resources and communities ready to help you on your journey to wellness. You don’t have to navigate it alone.
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Topics Discussed:
College drinking culture and its impact
Navigating drinking in our 20s and 30s
Health issues related to alcohol use
The decision to greatly reduce/abstain from alcohol
Reactions from others to choosing not to drink
Internal conflicts and polarization around drinking
Social experiences without alcohol (parties, weddings, reunions)
Asking the big questions: "Why am I drinking?" and "What is it adding?"
Favorite mocktail companies and non-alcoholic drinks
Tune in and join us on this eye-opening exploration of a life less ordinary, one sober curious step at a time! 
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About Christina:
Christina Jelesky is the founder and Executive Creative Director of Piper & Co Creative Studio and a proud Tampa native. A graduate of the University of Kentucky with a degree in Merchandising, Apparel, and Textiles, Christina’s lifelong passion for artistry began at a young age, designing clothing with her grandmother. Her creative journey includes designing her alma mater’s official plaid and managing The Scout Guide Tampa Bay & St. Petersburg for over a decade.
Beyond her creative pursuits, Christina is active in the Tampa community, enjoys CrossFit, and cherishes time with her husband and their four daughters (all with "P" names), along with their dog, Phoebe.
 
Connect with Christina:
Email: hello@piperandcocreative.com 
Instagram: @piperandco.creative
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Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/
 
Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact 
 
Instagram: @nataliedeering
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Guided Meditation: Connecting with Your Intuition for Healing with Tammy Waldron

In this special episode, Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing, leads a calming and transformative guided meditation designed to help you connect with your intuition for deep healing. Tammy invites you to tap into your inner wisdom, quiet the mind, and align with your True Self. Whether you're new to intuitive practices or looking to deepen your connection, this meditation offers a supportive space to release blocks, cultivate clarity, and harness the healing power within.
Take a moment, find a quiet space, and allow Tammy to guide you on this journey to reconnect with your intuition.
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Connect with Tammy Waldron:
 
Schedule a 30-minute discovery call here: https://calendly.com/towandawellbeing/30min 
 
Website: https://www.towandawellbeing.com/ 
 
Email: tammy@towandawellbeing.com 
 
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammy-waldron/ 
 
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/towandawellbeing 
 
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Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below
 
Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/
 
Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact 
 
Instagram: @nataliedeering
 

Harnessing Intuition for Healing in IFS and ThetaHealing® with Tammy Waldron

In this illuminating episode, I'm joined by Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing and a seasoned Advanced ThetaHealing® Teacher and Practitioner, to explore the transformative power of intuition in healing. Tammy shares her profound insights on connecting to Source energy (Self/Higher Self energy) and how intuitive abilities—often expressed through the "claires" (clairvoyance, clairaudience, etc.)—can deepen our healing journeys.
We discuss how parts in Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy can sometimes block intuition, and Tammy provides practical strategies for unblending from these parts to reconnect with intuitive wisdom. Learn how to strengthen your intuition through daily practices, discernment, and muscle testing to bridge the subconscious and the body. Tammy and I also reveal ways to integrate intuition into IFS work, creating stronger connections to yourself and others while preventing burnout through intentional intuition practices.
This episode culminates in a special guided meditation led by Tammy to help you tap into your own intuitive abilities and connect with your higher Self. Whether you’re an IFS practitioner, someone curious about ThetaHealing®, or seeking new ways to deepen your personal healing journey, this episode is filled with actionable insights and inspiration.
 
About Tammy Waldron:
 
Meet Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing and a passionate guide for wellness practitioners, healers, and truth-seekers looking to align with their True Selves. With over a decade of experience, Tammy leads the transformative R.I.S.E. Program (Reignite Intuition & Self-Expression), a year-long integrative certification that blends powerful modalities like ThetaHealing®, Silent Counseling, and Gene Keys. Through this holistic program, participants learn to release limiting beliefs, heal emotional wounds, and reconnect with their intuition, offering tools to create lasting transformation. Tammy empowers individuals to move from trauma to freedom, overwhelm to clarity, and stagnation to harmony, fostering deep healing, intuitive growth, and an aligned life of purpose.
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Topics Covered:
Connecting to Source energy (Self/Higher Self energy)
Exploring intuitive abilities through the "claires"
When parts block intuition and how to work through it
Strengthening discernment and practicing intuition
Muscle testing to connect with the subconscious and body
Integrating intuition into IFS work to deepen self-connection
Preventing burnout with intuitive practices
A guided meditation to connect with your intuition
Tune in for an episode that blends spirituality, intuition, and evidence-based practices to empower your journey toward healing and connection.
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Tammy Waldron Resources:
 
Schedule a 30-minute discovery call here: https://calendly.com/towandawellbeing/30min 
 
Website: https://www.towandawellbeing.com/ 
 
Email: tammy@towandawellbeing.com 
 
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tammy-waldron/ 
 
Linktree: https://linktr.ee/towandawellbeing 
 
I hope you can join my FREE Monthly Healing Circle—https://www.towandawellbeing.com/healing-circles 
 
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Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below
 
Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/
 
Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact 
 
Instagram: @nataliedeering
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Astrology and How it Impacts Our Relationships, with Nicki Slattery

In this episode, Natalie sits with friend of the pod, Nicki Slattery, to discuss astrology and how it impacts our relationships.  
 
Topics Discussed:
1. How astrology can help you and your relationships (romantic and family)
2. The history of astrology and the impact of gravity
3. What is a sun sign and moon sign
4. Synastry chart vs. Composite chart for relationships
5. Nicki reads Natalie's synastry and composite chart regarding her relationship with her husband, Bill
 
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Nicki Slattery of Golden Spark Tarot, combines the practical with the magical, in her metaphysical coaching practice & financial planning business.  When you sit down with Nicki for a Tarot, Palm or Natal Chart reading, you will understand your subconscious roadblocks more deeply, as well as the actions to take to create the best future possible.  Nicki also facilitates an in depth analysis of your personality, destiny and unique prosperity codes to connect to your greatest abundance.  To complement the intangible with the tangible, Nicki helps clients visualize, plan & invest to realize their dreams.  
 
IG @goldensparktarot
 
Schedule an Astrological Assessment here
 
Schedule a Prosperity Activation session here
 
Golden Spark Tarot Site
 
Get the Design Your Magical Life Guide here, includes your Natal Chart + Tarot Life time card
 
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Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact 
Instagram: @nataliedeering
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A Guidebook for Walking a Healing Path, with Ralph De La Rosa

In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS therapist, author, and meditation teacher Ralph De La Rosa to discuss his new book, Outshining Trauma: A New Vision of Radical Self-Compassion.  
 
Topics Discussed:
1. Blending meditation and IFS
2. True mindfulness; not looking at thoughts as the enemy
3. Buddhism meditation and IFS
4. Discussion of the book's three parts and how they are a guidebook for healing
 
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Ralph De La Rosa (they/he) is the author of three books, including the new Outshining Trauma: A New Vision of Radical Compassion (foreword by Richard Schwartz). He is a psychotherapist in private practice and a longtime meditation teacher known for his radically honest and humorous approach. Ralph has mentored personally with Richard Schwartz, founder of the Internal Family Systems model of psychotherapy. His work has been featured in GQ, CNN, NY Post, Tricycle, Mindful Magazine, and beyond.
 
Website: https://ralphdelarosa.com/ 
 
 
Pre-Order/Order Book!
 
Instagram: @ralphdelarosa
 
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Would You Run 50 Miles? Running as a Parallel to Life, with Lauren Callahan

In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS practitioner, author, and ultra runner Lauren Callahan as they dive into her new book, Couch to 50 Miles: The Story of a Girl, a Trail, and a Relentless Need to Always Run. 
 
Topics Discussed:
1. Running as a mirror for life, and parts.
2. The ultra running experience and its connection to Self energy
3. Striving parts and ultra running
4. Writing as healing
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Gut health expert, Ultrarunner, and Reiki master, Lauren is the owner of Goddess Health and helps perimenopausal athletes boost their energy and mood, reach peak health and performance, recover better, and ditch the bloat, belly fat, inflammation, and endless injury for good. She is also author of the book “Couch to 50 miles”, an inspirational story of her healing journey from scarcity and survival to learning the power of nutrition, training, recovery, and inner peace. 
 
Website: https://goddesshealth.org/
Book, "Couch to 50 Miles"
 
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Bonus: Sonya Verma Mini Sound Healing Session

Sit back and enjoy a mini sound healing session with Sonya Verma!  
 
Enjoy :) 
 
- Natalie 

Are You Listening to the Sounds Around You? Sound Healing and its Benefits, with Sonya Verma

New virtual workshop series for self discovery using IFS and Human Design,
- Starts Friday October 25th 11am-1pm EST
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In this episode, Natalie sits with sound healing expert Sonya Verma. 
 
Topics Discussed:
1. Sonya's decision to leave medical school
2. Sonya's near death experience and the impacts it had
3. What is sound healing
4. Sound frequencies to access meditative states and healing
5. What a sound healing session looks like
6. Natalie shares her personal experiences with sound healing
7. Benefits of sound healing and how to do it on a daily basis
8. Sonya shares a guided sound healing experience
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Sonya Verma MHSA, MBI is the founder of Inner Radiant Life, she is a yoga and sound therapist with University of Cincinnati Osher Center for Integrative Health, and is a Ayurvedic Practitioner with a passion for discovering the intersection of creative expression and healing in a community-based setting.
 
She weaves her training from different modalities of somatic movement and bodywork in addition to different yoga traditions and trauma research in all of her work. In addition Sonya facilitates deep listening sound immersions privately and in group settings sometimes collaborating with her sound artist husband Daniel creating environments for people to get away from their everyday lives inviting mindful listening, enhanced communication, awareness, understanding, personal & collective resonance.
 
Link Tree: linktr.ee/innerradiantlife
IG: @inner_radiant_life
 
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Have You Ever Felt Heartbroken? Navigating Heartbreak with Sara Avant Stover

In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS practitioner and author Sara Avant Stover to discuss her new book, Handbook for the Heartbroken. 
 
Topics Discussed:
1. Heartbreak is a basic part of the human experience
2. The judgmental culture towards heartbreak
3. Grief as a medicine
4. How to be there for someone who is experiencing heartbreak
5. The three stages of heartbreak: Devastation, Transformation, and Rebirth
6. Techniques to invite when experiencing each stage of heartbreak
7. Benefits of IFS, meditation, and journaling for support
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Sara Avant Stover (she/her) is the author of three books; teacher and mentor of women's spirituality, empowerment, and entrepreneurship; and a Level 3 Certified Internal Family Systems Practitioner. 
 
Website: www.SaraAvantStover.com 
Book Link: https://saraavantstover.com/books 
Podcast: https://saraavantstover.com/podcast/ 
IG: @saraavantstover
 
 
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Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact 
Instagram: @nataliedeering
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